Pod 182 - Independence Day (1996)

This week we talk about ID4 from 1996! Our creator profile this week is Bill Pullman!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:14

I'll be alright. I've only been awake since 3 30. Is it going? Because I don't see it moving. Yeah, it's it's it's moving.

SPEAKER_06 0:21

You gotta give the seconds the second.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Well no, I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about the the audio.

SPEAKER_06 0:27

Oh, that's not the audio, that says video. That's audio.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

Alright, I just want to make sure. Yeah, like when the boys, when I was walking inside, he's like, Yeah, hopefully your audio don't cut out. I'm like, oh fuck.

SPEAKER_06 0:44

Well, you know, it's kind of like being cheated on. When you've been cheated on, you're like, it could happen again.

SPEAKER_07 0:51

Yeah. And our very first episode did not bode well for us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 0:54

Because we had to re-record the whole thing.

SPEAKER_07 0:56

We are super, super sensitive to things not working.

unknown 0:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:01

Nothing worse than spending two hours. Like one little one little noise, and you're like. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Wasted my breath. Two hours.

SPEAKER_06 1:10

Could be worse. Did you guys watch anything new?

SPEAKER_02 1:14

I watched the Mari movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:16

Season five of Fargo.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Oh. Okay. And Kendra took me or wanted or when we went out that one weekend, she wanted to go to the movies so she went and had a fuck fest in a in a hotel with a pool. And uh we uh watched a movie called The Drama.

SPEAKER_06 1:34

Oh, yeah, yeah. The one with uh Robert Pattenton and Yeah, I don't advise watching that at all. I wouldn't have watched it. I kind of want to watch it. Don't tell me the twist, because I heard that there's something that they don't tell you in the trailers. Well, they should something that no, it's something that they want to keep hidden for the movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

It's probably the thing that the whole movie is just is like completely wrapped around.

SPEAKER_06 1:55

I think it's like don't tell me because I do plan on watching that movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

I'll tell you right now, when you find out what it is and how they just drag it out, you will like want to blow your brains out.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Oh. Okay. That doesn't sound good at all. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

I apologize. And advanced. All right.

SPEAKER_06 2:14

Well, don't you know now you can do that?

SPEAKER_02 2:15

I'm not I'm not ruining, I'm just saying I'm I just apologize in advance.

SPEAKER_06 2:19

Well, we we did everybody else a favor and we watched the new scream movie.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:25

It was it was okay. It was a scream movie.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Matthew Luller was probably the best part about it.

SPEAKER_06 2:30

And then no.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

No? Because he was AI. Oh, he was AI? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:35

I've been saying this. I I knew the killers as soon as I saw it.

SPEAKER_07 2:38

All the all of the killers were all of the old killers that came back were all AI.

SPEAKER_06 2:45

Uh-huh. Yeah. I I I I knew the killers as soon as they showed up on the screen.

SPEAKER_07 2:51

That's what everybody says.

SPEAKER_06 2:52

That's the killer. Chris was like, how do you know? I was like, just wait.

SPEAKER_07 2:56

And then I heard that they didn't even have like a motive or anything. It was just No, they didn't. Wow. There's one part where like I'm pretty sure they made that clear in the first movie. Do you guys plan on watching it? I'm not gonna fucking watch that shit.

SPEAKER_06 3:07

No, okay. Well, I'm gonna go ahead and give it all away. Ethan Embry's in the movie. Yeah, he's one of the killers.

SPEAKER_07 3:12

Yeah, no, I knew that.

SPEAKER_06 3:13

And uh so so is that girl from the uh pitch perfect movies.

SPEAKER_07 3:17

It was like it was like his their her neighbor in the game.

SPEAKER_06 3:20

Yeah, it was a neighbor lady, yeah. And so, but she had a son, right? And the son was friends with all the group of other people, and he's actually on the boys, I kind of like him. So in the movie, you're like, he could be one of the killers. He's not, he dies. But then you find out later on, she's like, but you your own son, and she's like, Yeah, but he reminded me of his dad too much. That was her excuse for killing her own child. I was like, What the fuck? Like, that doesn't make any goddamn sense. So so kill the dad. I mean, the dad wasn't even there. That's the thing. It's like he so she killed. I thought Ethan Embry. I was like, oh, Ethan Embry, he's probably the dad. No, no, he's just a guy that they teamed up and they fucking Yeah, that's what it was like. I was like, wow. Okay, dumb. This is the um So does Saul. Yeah, right. Good kills, uh the acting was good. Gail Gail took a back seat, which I liked. Um, it was all about Sydney and her husband and and daughter, and her husband is played by uh um the fuck is his name? He he used to do um this is the the Daily Soup, is it?

SPEAKER_07 4:34

Was it oh oh oh oh uh he was in community, yeah. He was in community, uh Joel McHale.

SPEAKER_06 4:40

Which I liked him in the movie.

SPEAKER_07 4:42

I do well who how can you not like Joel McHale?

SPEAKER_06 4:44

Well, he wasn't even really he wasn't funny in the movie at all.

SPEAKER_07 4:47

He wasn't meant to be a big either.

SPEAKER_06 4:50

Yeah, yeah. So he was actually a very uh serious role, like but he was a cop and he was he was awesome. I actually liked him more than most of the other characters in the movie. Um you call it the community soup? No, it was the uh it was called the daily soup.

SPEAKER_07 5:07

He used to host it before he's said community, that's what it was.

SPEAKER_06 5:11

His own Comedy Central, I think it was.

SPEAKER_07 5:13

Don't don't give don't yeah, come on. Don't come at us like Jesus.

SPEAKER_06 5:20

We're just doing our thing over here. He always looks like that.

SPEAKER_07 5:26

This is what you look like, baby. You look like Clint Eastwood in that one gif where he hates like everything that the young kids are doing on his property. That's what you look like right now, and you're talking to your friends like you mean talk soup? So you look you look like the grumpiest old man ever. No, but he just that am I wrong though in that assessment? Yeah, he's like accurate, you mean talk soup? Yeah, we also that's exactly how it went then.

SPEAKER_06 5:59

We also watched um something very bad is going to happen on that that show on Netflix.

SPEAKER_07 6:05

I've heard of this.

SPEAKER_06 6:07

Yeah, uh it was good.

SPEAKER_07 6:09

Um did something bad happen?

SPEAKER_06 6:11

Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_07 6:13

What a fucking rip, dude. They gave it away right now.

SPEAKER_06 6:18

No, the ending was actually kind of bonkers, um, but I'm not gonna give anything away away in case you guys decide to watch it. It's it's a wedding, it's all about these two people getting married and they go to her his parents' how uh like cabin for the whole wedding thing. Well, it's a big it's not a cabin, it's a fucking mansion. Oh they call it a cabin. I'm like, that's not a cabin.

SPEAKER_07 6:39

That's a cabin in the same way my bathroom is you know fucking jacuzzi.

SPEAKER_06 6:43

Exactly. Uh so it's good though, like it definitely steers you around some roads and and it gets a little weird. And then like some characters that you hate at first, you end up really liking, and it's it's pretty wild. So by the end of it though, I was like, because I didn't know I didn't just like I don't think I like this show. But I was like, we're committed, we're sticking to it. But by the end, I was like, okay, it all pays off. So it was good. I really I really liked it. Um but other than that, we haven't really I haven't had time to watch anything else. Like I think we caught an episode of The Pit the other day, and I've been thinking about getting into some baseball, watching baseball. I love baseball. Okay, it's just Jackson's been Jackson's in in baseball now, and so I'm like, kid needs to you know watch baseball, you know what I mean? So he has something to aspire to, you know what I mean? Instead of just going off of what he thinks he's supposed to be doing, like have him look up to something, you know?

SPEAKER_02 7:42

And uh take him to a game, maybe a dragons game or something.

SPEAKER_06 7:46

He's been to a dragons game before, yeah. Um, I want to watch, but I whenever I was younger, I watched a lot of baseball. I loved the Indians, uh they were my favorite team. I had I had them and Michael Jordan all over my walls, you know, as a little kid. And uh same as the Cowboys, I had like Deion Sanders and and you know, Emmett Smith and that all over my walls. But I didn't care about them as much as I cared about baseball and Michael Jordan. So like I love Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was like my role model growing up. I loved him. Um, and then mostly because of like Space Jam and all that. Like I love Space Jam as a kid. Um you know he he plays for the Bulls, right? Who's that? Yeah, yeah. He's on a he's on a Space Jam. That's what it says on his jersey. He was but he was like that icon growing up as a kid, you know what I mean? Like you guys know, you were there, you were you guys know what I'm talking about. Like he was a fucking icon. You know, I had a six uh life-size poster of him in my bedroom.

SPEAKER_07 8:43

Yeah, people who didn't give a shit about basketball knew who he was. Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 8:47

And I didn't know how good he was. I didn't care about the other teams. All I loved it was the Bulls because of Michael Jordan. Right. And uh, but baseball was my thing, and I want to try to get him into that stuff because he's into sports and he wants to do that stuff, and I but I I really want to like gear him towards watching it too, because if he's watching it, then he has something to say, oh yeah, you know, I I could probably do that, you know, or whatever, you know, or you know, like take pointers from watching the pros and things like that. But you know, so I can be like, hey, see you way through that ball, you know, how you know whipped, you know, just shit like that. So I want to.

SPEAKER_07 9:23

This is the part you're doing wrong, son. Pay attention. Yeah, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:28

He's pretty good, actually. He's got an arm on him, and he just needs to work on a few things. But uh, we've been going to practices and stuff, and he's he's got games coming up here in a couple weeks. So, but aside from that, I haven't been doing jack shit. Sleeping. How is your birthday? Um the day or the everything else. Everything else, whatever. Well, we had whatever you want to talk about. Dan, and I think she he and she invited. She had invited us, but we had we had that cancer thing things going on. And so Dan showed up, and then my buddy, and then Fish came. Um, and then my buddy Jeff, who I hadn't seen in a few years, he lives in Columbus, um, went got smart and went and married himself a pediatrician and moved to Columbus. Uh showed up and surprised me. So I was really happy to see him. That's cool. He's like, Man, you guys need to come to Columbus and just, you know, because I got a like a nice downtown house and and uh he wants us to come visit for a weekend, which I really want to do because I was like, ah, we'll just come there. He's like, You guys can do whatever you want, we'll leave you alone. I was like, no, I want you to show me around. Show me what's cool to do downtown Columbus. Right. I hate Columbus, but I mean, if I'm staying down there, I'd be cool to do some shit. Sure. But yeah, it wasn't too much.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

If you're not driving around, you can have somebody else driving.

SPEAKER_06 10:53

Yeah, it was nice. Uh Crystal got me a few things. I got this shirt for my birthday. This is the Goonies. It's pretty awesome. Yeah. Uh but other than that, we didn't do really anything. I got some new paints from a minis.

SPEAKER_07 11:04

Nice.

unknown 11:05

Good.

SPEAKER_06 11:06

Yeah, and then we went to uh we went out to eat, and that's about it.

SPEAKER_07 11:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 11:12

So it was pretty chill.

SPEAKER_07 11:14

Par for how things go now for us.

SPEAKER_06 11:17

Yeah, and I was working 10 hours on my birthday, so why?

SPEAKER_07 11:20

I feel like I feel like on your birthday they should just give you the two hours for free.

SPEAKER_06 11:24

They should no, they should just let you off for the day.

SPEAKER_07 11:26

Well, I was gonna say that, but I figured that was far-fetched.

SPEAKER_06 11:29

Let you off and pay you. Any kind of free money from a company is far-fetched. But yeah, it wasn't too bad. I turned 40, by the way, everybody, so I feel different. Not in a good way.

SPEAKER_07 11:41

I feel like uh Oh, I should send you the orientation video to oh, to the 40?

SPEAKER_06 11:46

To the 40s, yeah. I feel like I don't want to joke around as much. And I know that's weird because like you just turned 40. No, I was feeling that way before. Like, I've just been feeling that way lately. Like, I'm not in the mood to joke around. I just want to like do my thing and everybody leave me the fuck alone.

SPEAKER_07 12:03

So no, so it gets it only gets worse. Yeah, I figured. Trust me. Yeah, yeah, like uh get me out of the house anymore. It's like I got pants.

SPEAKER_06 12:11

Yeah, Chris was like well, do you want to hang out with him? Like, uh can we just play video games or watch TV or you know, like I have enjoyed it being nice out and being able to get out of the house because that's you know, like going to the jack well, going to Jackson's stall or baseball games or practices and stuff. I'm like, yeah, let's do that. Like yesterday, he I we just converted his bike to electric, and uh, so he rode that down to the field while I rode the electric scooter down there, and you know, just a ride down there was nice. So, yeah. I think he just wiped out on a little bit ago. Well, we need to fix the brakes. Ah, they're not very good. I see the old foot burst. Boom, crash! Oh, you're fine. Just put your foot in the back tire, you'd be alright. Rub some dirt on it, you'll be able to get it. Just do a stick of the spoke.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

Do it in the front. Do it in the front.

SPEAKER_06 13:09

Alright. Uh, anyway. Sorry, wrong button. It's being weird. Being weird, people. Check off the socials. Was it gonna go away or is there sticking to the water? I know. You just stay there the whole podcast.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

You hit the button too many times. It was I think it did.

SPEAKER_06 13:29

Like, oh fuck, what's he want me to do?

SPEAKER_07 13:31

I'll stick around for a minute, see if he says anything.

SPEAKER_06 13:34

Yeah. I think he wants I think he hit it twice because he wants me to stay longer. Uh don't forget about the socials. Um yeah, so that's cool. Anyway, moving on.

unknown 13:45

God damn it.

SPEAKER_06 13:47

Fuck the keyboard. You gotta guess in my Jeremiah. Will Smith. No.

SPEAKER_07 13:57

Bill Randy Quaid. No.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

Bill Putman. Bill Putman? I can't remember. Yeah, Pullman. Bill Pullman.

SPEAKER_07 14:08

I knew I knew I knew it was Bill Putnam. I knew it was Bill P and Bill Motherfucking Pullman.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

I just couldn't remember what it was. Bill Putman? Yeah. Yeah, Pullman.

SPEAKER_06 14:16

Yeah, it's Bill Pullman.

SPEAKER_07 14:18

Lone Star. Yeah, we already know the movie I'm gonna do. Okay, but did did anybody uh notice him say Eagle One in the movie? And I instantly in my head was like, No, you're Eagle Five.

SPEAKER_06 14:35

Um so alright, I'll get to there, but uh about my favorite movie of his. Alright, so anyway, uh William James Pullman was born in Hornell, New York. One of the one of seven children to of Joanna, uh, a nurse, and James Pullman, a doctor. Damn, dude. See, this is how these motherfuckers become actors, because they their parents got money and they're like, Oh, darling, you don't even have to wait anymore.

SPEAKER_07 15:05

You want to pursue your acting career. They go in, here's a million dollars, put my son in the movie.

SPEAKER_06 15:12

We'll just build him a theater.

SPEAKER_07 15:15

Oh, fine. You don't want him in your movie? That's fine. We'll make our own movie, and everyone will love it. Pishposh.

SPEAKER_05 15:25

Fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

I use that. I use that almost every time I'm trying to get out something like pish posh.

SPEAKER_06 15:35

All right. Uh all right, so anyway, where was I? Uh he is of Dutch and English, Northern, Irish, and Scottish descent. After high school, Bill went into a building construction program uh at Sunny Delhi, Delhi, Delhi, Delhi Delhi. Delhi, yeah. In New York.

SPEAKER_07 15:56

Delhi? No, it's Delhi.

SPEAKER_06 15:57

I think it's Delhi. Uh he transferred to State University of New York College at a one uh one of one on Tana on a whatever. Where he was on a monopia. I mean, that's kind of it's like one like one on a uh one on Tana.

SPEAKER_07 16:17

One on Tana?

SPEAKER_06 16:18

One Ottana. One no, it's one on Tana. You sure you don't want two Antana? Fucking Christ.

SPEAKER_07 16:23

Stupid words.

SPEAKER_06 16:24

Where he received his BA, which is bachelor's, right? Bachelor's depends.

SPEAKER_07 16:31

BA is Bachelor of Arts, BS is Bachelor of Science, Bachelor of Arts because it's in theater. Yeah, so I'm just saying, like, there's different B's.

SPEAKER_06 16:39

Different B's, yeah, different bitches, all kinds of bitches, all kinds of bitches.

SPEAKER_07 16:43

Make this work.

SPEAKER_06 16:44

He received both his MFA in theater directing and on honorary PhD from University of Massachusetts at Amherst. Well, how long did he spend in college? Anyway, while teaching directing at Montana State University in Bosman, Montana, one of Bill's students was the uh soon-to-be film director John Dahl. Dale? Dahl? Sure. Who later cast Mr. Pullman in Mr. Pullman, okay, in The Last Seduction. Uh moving to New York, he worked with Kathy Bates in the acclaimed stage production of Curse of the Starving Class. However, it was his first work in three strikingly diverse films that brought him to the attention of his audience. Ruthless People, uh, with Danny DeVito and Bet Midler, and uh the Mel Brooks hit Space Balls, and the Oscar nominated and winner of four Best Supporting Actress, Gina Davis, the accidental uh tourist. Still attracted to the art and study of building construction, uh Bill has designed and or restored three barns. Not homes, just barns. Well, what would she do? I think we should paint it red. Replace a few beams. Yeah, red.

SPEAKER_03 18:23

What happened?

SPEAKER_06 18:24

Somebody hit a barn. You think we should go with shingles? No. Metal roof. We did shingles last time. He has to use the uh the phone, the microphone thing. Today we celebrate wrong shade of red. So dumb. In Montana, he just converted a 1993 her 1933 barn at his ranch into his family home. You live in a barn?

SPEAKER_07 18:58

But it's it's a nice barn with with indoor plumbing.

SPEAKER_06 19:03

Yeah, and plumbing. We still kept the door the dirt floors, though. And we still got the hay bales in the back. So that's where our guests sleep. That's where you sleep. Yeah. Uh all right. In Los Angeles, he built a truss barn in the style of LA's 1910 fruit storage barns. In western New York State, he restored a three-bay barn that sometimes uh serves as a community center near his hometown of Hornell, uh, New York. This dude loves barns. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 19:37

Uh seems kind of cowboy-ish, actually.

SPEAKER_06 19:41

Focus on more or focus more on neighborhoods than show business. Uh show show business based charities and societies. Uh Pullman has defined himself uh by his work with his local communities. He works to uh bridge communities of Los Angeles through his board uh work with Cornerstone Theater. Pullman continues to work with uh his neighbors who formed concerned citizens of Montana citizens of Montana to secure a place at the table regarding the national need for a smart grid for energy transmission. Okay. This dude is smarter than me. Uh he also works with local universities, University, uh Alfred University of New York, as well as supports local health services, the Pullman Woman's uh health and birthing center at St. James Hospital, Hornell, New York. Oh, this guy's just a philanthropist.

SPEAKER_07 20:51

He always seems like a nice guy.

SPEAKER_06 20:53

He does. He seems like a very nice guy. Uh Pullman is also an MS Society ambassador.

SPEAKER_07 21:00

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_06 21:01

Um, based in Los Angeles, New York City, and Western Montana. Pullman. I heard Montana's a really nice state, though. Like it's really pretty there. Oh, I'm sure it is. Uh, and they have three children: daughter, singer, songwriter Mesa Ray, and multi-talented sons Jack and Lewis Pullman, who is now also an actor.

SPEAKER_07 21:26

You knew he was gonna have a son named Jack. You just knew it.

SPEAKER_06 21:31

Uh, Jack is in a lot of movies.

SPEAKER_07 21:33

I know, I'm just saying, like, you knew Bill Pullman, his cowboyish ways was his son was in the Outer Ranch.

SPEAKER_06 21:39

Uh, he was also in the Thunderbolts, he plays Century now in the Marvel Universe. Uh, he's got some other movies coming out. He does he's got a horror movie coming out.

SPEAKER_07 21:49

I seen a bunch of um the publicity stills, and then there was some with his dad and stuff too. So I know who you're talking about. I mean, I haven't seen any of it, but yeah, he's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 21:57

I really like him as an actor. He I think he's got He's gonna go along with it.

SPEAKER_07 22:00

Oh, sure. No, I was just more talking about like the cowboy thing. Like you knew he was gonna have a son and his name was gonna be Jack.

SPEAKER_06 22:06

It's funny because he played a cowboy in uh and a bull rider in in the outer ranch. Well, I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 22:14

As one does.

SPEAKER_06 22:15

Yeah, right. Uh anyway, um, favorite Bill Pullman movie. Casper. Cas I kind of figured you were going with Casper.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

Space Balls for me. Space Balls.

SPEAKER_06 22:27

Space balls. I love Space Balls. Um, but also um, I don't know if you guys have ever seen uh movie called Um Malice. I have. That's a really good movie, also.

SPEAKER_07 22:38

It is with uh mine simply because of my mom. Yeah, right. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 22:43

Malice is really good. Um but yeah, it's definitely gonna be Space Balls. Casper Casper's good. I like him as the dad in Casper. He's one of my favorite parts of Casper, other than my crush on Christina Ricci.

SPEAKER_07 22:57

Yeah, oh yeah. I think a lot of people hit puberty at the same time watching that movie.

SPEAKER_06 23:01

Yeah, like, oh, what is happening to my body?

SPEAKER_07 23:03

It wasn't just Christina Ricci, then you can now Devin Saba walking down the stairs and every girl went, oh my. Yeah, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:12

And now I see her as an adult, and I'm still like, what is happening to my body?

SPEAKER_07 23:16

Dude, I ran smack into Devin Sawa's chest. Like that. And went, hi.

SPEAKER_06 23:24

It made him funnier if like you came off his chest and it was like your tongue was out. You accidentally licked him, you like you licked him on accident.

SPEAKER_07 23:33

Uh she said something really funny. Why do you taste like leather? It's funny because he was wearing a leather vest. I don't see, yeah. Anyway, I know because I hit it with my nose.

SPEAKER_06 23:46

All right, there's Bill Pullman for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Um question for y'all. Um What has more lives than a cat? A frog. It croaks every day.

SPEAKER_06 24:01

Okay Wow. I've been going around telling everybody this one. Why is Monday the most uh hold on a minute?

SPEAKER_02 24:12

While he thinks about that, I got another one for you. Where do you take somebody who's injured in a peekaboo accident?

SPEAKER_04 24:20

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

The ICU. That was a bad idea.

SPEAKER_04 24:31

Come on, only me.

SPEAKER_07 24:34

I like that one.

SPEAKER_06 24:35

Well, remember it.

SPEAKER_07 24:37

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_06 24:38

I don't like it. I had a I had one I made up and I can't remember it now.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

What do you think?

SPEAKER_06 24:44

Why is Monday the most uh never mind, I forget.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

What would you feed an alligator?

SPEAKER_03 24:54

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Anything at once.

SPEAKER_06 25:01

It's fucking dogs. Alright, anyway, let's move on here. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_07 25:05

Let's talk about the movie.

SPEAKER_06 25:10

Dad explained so much. The plot synopsis Independence Day, by the way.

SPEAKER_07 25:16

In 90 from 96. Strange phenomenon surface around the globe, the skies ignite, terror races through the world's major cities. As these extraordinary events unfold, it becomes increasingly clear that a force of incredible magnitude. Did they have to use all of these$10 words all at once?

SPEAKER_04 25:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 25:33

Has arrived. Its mission, total annihilation over the 4th of July weekend. The last hope to stop the destruction is an unlikely group of people united by fate and unimaginable circumstances. Um 25 minutes, PG 13, Will Smith, uh Bill Pullman, Jeff Goldblum, uh fucking everybody. A lot of people. Fucking everybody's in this movie. Because she's the stripper?

SPEAKER_06 26:01

No, because she's the hottest. It was a joke.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

I got one more kind of pertaining to this.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

How do you how do you uh organize a space um party? You plan it.

SPEAKER_04 26:23

All right, uh so Independence Day.

SPEAKER_06 26:27

As of currently, critics reviews, 80 reviews by the critics, and it's at a 69%. It's not even certified fresh. Yeah, right. 250,000 uh uh audience reviews at 75%. So I mean it's it's lukewarm, I'd say. Yeah, it's not uh says here from the critics the plot is thin and so is character development, but as a thrilling spectacle-filled summer movie Independence Day delivers. So I don't know about you, but I felt like watching this movie because I haven't seen this movie in years. Oh, me neither. Oh, wait, hold on, we need to do our our thing. So the thing? Uh, would you watch? Would you recommend?

SPEAKER_00 27:18

I'd watch it again, but not in the near future. It's been years. Yeah. Um, like they said, the plots then. I caught it on TV, maybe, like background noise. I could recommend it. I mean, you could at least see it once. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_06 27:39

Uh I'm with you on that. Um, I haven't seen this movie in years, but with what's come out since then, this movie feels like just another summer blockbuster action, thin plot Michael Bay movie. That's what it feels like. I'd go worse, I'd say propaganda. Okay. Uh uh, so but um I would say I agree with you, you should at least watch it once. Will I watch again? Of course. Everybody watches Independence Day, and I will it probably just won't be anytime soon. Um But I did look forward to a lot of the one-liners that I missed, you know, and things like that. And also, it's just it just it didn't hit like it used to.

SPEAKER_07 28:24

That's why I say it seems more like propaganda now.

SPEAKER_06 28:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 28:27

To me. Like it's not, it's not like it's like, you know, I don't know, it's like it's like literally sucking America's dick. Like it's so that's awesome though. Well, I mean, in a it's fine, but it's it's so overly done. Like every like, could we fit any movement?

SPEAKER_06 28:45

We need that now more than ever.

SPEAKER_07 28:47

Maybe we do, but like it's when it when it becomes cheesy to me, I'm out.

SPEAKER_06 28:53

No, I'm I don't even care. Like, I disagree with you.

SPEAKER_07 28:55

I think we need that right now because I think we need Bill Pullman as our president, is what I think. Yeah, so that's where I'm going with it. But no, it's just I don't know. That was what I noticed this time around. It was like, my god, like let's just try to fit more imagery in here and make it even more like forced, yeah, force fed.

SPEAKER_06 29:17

Yeah. But it is called Independence Day, though.

SPEAKER_07 29:20

I know, but it just it was too much. Too much. Um no, I probably won't watch it again. It's too fucking long, and the payoff is not enough.

SPEAKER_06 29:30

Did you guys watch the extended version? Or so did I? It's it's there were some things and I was like, yeah, I can see why they cut that out.

SPEAKER_07 29:37

Sure. Like, okay, here's the thing. I don't I don't mind the movie, but like I just it's too fucking long. I don't I don't probably won't watch it again. The payoff for me is not enough. But I'd recommend it. I think people should watch it at least once.

SPEAKER_06 29:50

I will say this if you watch the theatrical version, or if you have a choice between the theatrical version and the extended version, watch the theatrical version. It hits faster and harder. Um, and it it that could that shit that they're talking about with the character development, they do a little bit more of that in the extended version, but it doesn't need to be there.

SPEAKER_07 30:11

I think the only reason you watch the extended version is that it explains a few things. Like I remember a lot well, no, like more so like I remember being really confused about how he knew her, like, because she answers the phone and she's like, How do you know that this number? But in the extended version, you know how he figured it out. But in the theatrical version, he just calls her.

SPEAKER_06 30:29

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_07 30:30

You know, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_06 30:31

And then the little the boy being sick and all that stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they yeah, they explain more of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 30:37

Which not necessary. They just made it, but they made him look like a brat.

SPEAKER_06 30:43

Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_07 30:44

Well, if you don't get that explanation, I guess.

SPEAKER_06 30:46

But I don't care. I don't care about that character.

SPEAKER_07 30:48

No, I I guess.

SPEAKER_06 30:49

Because literally that's all he serves in the movie, is that he's this driving push on between the father and the son, but I didn't need it. Honestly, I didn't. I already felt that some attachment towards that character anyway, with you know, because he sacrifices himself at the end. I felt that and I didn't care about the other stuff. Sorry, you you need to. I was waiting.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

I was just listening. Sorry. Oh, you're good. Um like I said, I'm I mean, like you guys said, it's pretty just kind of meh.

SPEAKER_06 31:21

Anymore it is, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:23

I mean, like it used to be one of one of those movies like I'd sit down and watch all the time. Yeah. But getting older and just seeing things that come out now, it just kind of you know gnaws or numbs it a little bit. Yeah, it does. Like it's it's not a so not it's not impactful like it used to be.

SPEAKER_06 31:42

Yeah, it's not it's not like it like you got these Marvel movies and these bigger I mean you got Transformers. Explosions everywhere explosions and higher budget movies that are just more action, you know, and then you've got Independence Day over here, which don't get me wrong, for the time was a phenomenal movie. But now you look at it, you're like, oh wow, this is like nothing. This doesn't compare to what we have today.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

I got a question though on this movie. How the hell does an alien survivor crash and then it comes out and gets punched out and gets knocked out?

SPEAKER_06 32:10

Like especially whenever it's in like this suit, an armored suit.

SPEAKER_07 32:14

Because that's Will Smith. We couldn't get that great that great line. Yeah, Mark. Welcome to Earth.

SPEAKER_06 32:20

He punches him with the fist of America. It's true. The fist of fury. It's true, it's very true.

SPEAKER_07 32:27

I tell you guys. Okay, this is the one thing I do make.

SPEAKER_06 32:32

That's why he says now, welcome to Earth. He says now, that's what I call cross the counter. Cigar in his hand. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 32:39

No. What's that smell? That's my favorite part in the movie. I love that, yeah. That's my favorite part. He's just what the hell is that smell? And then I got a great piece of trivia about it, so you'll think me later.

SPEAKER_06 32:51

I think that's actually true. Well, I already know the trivia.

SPEAKER_07 32:54

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:55

Like because it's the desert moving rat. It's stunned.

SPEAKER_07 32:57

There's like brine shrimp that die, and then they they like die in the in the lake, but the lake is so shallow that it it uh it doesn't like keep the stench back. And so it when it the wind blows, the smell is ungodly. Well, nobody told Will. So he's saying his lines and then what the hell is that? Goes back and starts kicking the puppet.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

You imagine if there was somebody inside that.

SPEAKER_05 33:34

You're hitting me. It wasn't me, I swear. I smell it too, damn it.

SPEAKER_06 33:43

Yeah, Will Smith kicking the shit out of me. Watch out, Chris Rock.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

There's a there's actually a part in uh Sherlock Holmes, if you if you guys ever seen this, but uh they're they like walk into a uh room where there's just a bunch of dead bodies, like blown up bodies and body parts everywhere. Well, Robert Downey Jr. is like sees the body, and he's it's all like prosthetics and stuff like that. But every now and then they're real people in there. So Robert Downey Jr. walks up and just like stomps on a hand, and all you do is you hear a fucking uh back.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

My god. That's great.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

You never seen a Sherlock Holmes movies? They're good.

SPEAKER_06 34:30

Maybe they're uh we have them, they were directed by uh I know I saw one.

SPEAKER_07 34:35

I know I saw at least one. Robert's felt so bad. Both of them are pretty good. I want a third one.

SPEAKER_06 34:41

Yeah, they're both really good.

SPEAKER_07 34:42

I remember watching at least one.

SPEAKER_06 34:44

Probably the first one.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

Yeah. That's the one I think where they're thrown in that little jail or whatever. Yeah, or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_06 34:54

Yeah. Uh but yeah, this movie, it just uh there's a lot going on in here with the um characters and shit, and whether they finally get together and that. But uh, so everybody like you argued that like he he hacks the mothership with a MacBook. There's an explanation for that.

SPEAKER_07 35:13

No, I know it was a meme for the longest time. It wasn't that's what I was referencing. It's not me. Oh no, it was it's like a meme, like uh kind of like the one that we just found like a couple years back where it was like going around like hot stick or like hot cakes, where um they're talking about what's her face from um Friday, and they're like she was always out there watering her lawn, but she didn't even have no grass out there watering mud, and then you go back and watch the movie now and you're like right.

SPEAKER_06 35:42

You didn't notice because you're like too busy staring at her.

SPEAKER_07 35:45

Right, right.

SPEAKER_06 35:46

But uh um I I will say that like whenever Will Smith and and and uh fuck his uh Jeff Goldblum. Oh yeah wherever they get on scene and scene together and they get on the ship, they have no fucking chemistry. I don't I didn't feel it between them at all. Like there's no I didn't feel any chemistry. Did you guys?

SPEAKER_00 36:08

I didn't really notice, honestly.

SPEAKER_06 36:10

No? I just felt like they didn't think I did too. I well I felt like they didn't land together. You know what I mean? Like they just like Will Smith was up here, Jeff Bolt Goldman was kind of down here.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Playing that weird, awkward character.

SPEAKER_06 36:22

Yeah, playing that weird, awkward character, and then he's up here, but their their their comedy didn't match up at all to me. And it just didn't feel like they were vibing very much, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_07 36:32

Well, if I have to pick, I'm always gonna pick Jeff.

SPEAKER_06 36:34

I think they did alright. I disagree in this case. I think they didn't. Will Smith is great in this fucking movie.

SPEAKER_07 36:39

Oh, I'm not disagreeing. That fact I don't see I I guess I don't mind how they I think they did okay in when they were inside the uh the ship.

SPEAKER_06 36:50

See, I disagree. I didn't like it. I I I mean, it was it's fine. I like the scene and everything, but I just feel like they didn't they didn't mesh very well, you know what I mean? Like they didn't they didn't sit well together, you know what I mean? I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 37:02

I think you had it right when you said chemistry is what you're trying to say.

SPEAKER_06 37:05

Yeah, they just they they didn't have it together, you know what I mean? And I'm glad that the whole movie wasn't really centered around them, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_07 37:12

Like even at the end, whenever they're like Well, I think it's just it's just a situation where you've got the two most qualified people to be there, and it doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna be in that before.

SPEAKER_06 37:25

For cinematic purposes, you want them to be able to mesh well because it's more entertaining that way.

SPEAKER_07 37:29

I don't think anyone meshed as well with Jeff Goldwyn.

SPEAKER_06 37:33

I disagree. Gina Davis is great with him.

SPEAKER_07 37:35

I fantastically agree with that, but I'm just saying, like, he's they didn't they also didn't last. So that's true.

SPEAKER_06 37:41

So, but like for example, well, for for example, for example, whenever he uh comes in after they crash land back on Earth and all that, after they blow up the mothership, blah blah blah. When they're walking across through the desert and they're all chasing to go run up to my god, you're heroes, blah blah blah. But you got them walking up, and I'm like, I'm looking at him and Will Smith like walking side by side. I'm like, nah, doesn't work well for me. Like it just it just was two different vibes. Yeah, not an action hero kind of yeah, it was just two different vibes to me, like walking together. It was weird. I just don't see them together. Like, okay, Tommy Lee Jones, Will Smith, great chemistry, great chemistry. Like they're awesome in Men in Black together, fantastic, complete opposite. Yes, but they work well together because their comedy, they they they suited each other. So, but whereas with this, you're right, maybe it's just Jeff Goldblum, where he he's just different in that way.

SPEAKER_07 38:42

And it's hard to I don't think matches energy. I think if it's gonna be Jeff Goldblum, it's always gonna be off. Like he's always gonna be that guy, he's always played that guy. Um well, except for in Earth Girls are easy. Yeah, because he was easy. He was great with the other two. Yeah, he didn't really talk too much, I guess, on that one. But yeah, I'm just saying that like, you know, you're not gonna get a different vibe if you're if you've got Jeff Gold.

SPEAKER_06 39:12

I suppose, yeah. Yeah, I just it's just it was a weird matchup, I think. Um but aside from that, I think everybody else is great. Bill Pullman, they don't give him enough screen time.

SPEAKER_07 39:22

I think that watching this movie, it gave me a lot of nostalgia, and not because of the movie, more so thinking about the situations in which uh certain things in the movie were possible. Like Bill Pullman as the president kind of represented what we all saw as a president at that time. Yeah, right. He was sort of like an every man's president, right?

SPEAKER_06 39:51

Like Bill Clinton at the time.

SPEAKER_07 39:52

Sure, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 39:54

The working class man.

SPEAKER_07 39:55

Yeah, just you know, that guy. That that approachable guy. Yeah, yeah. Um we also believed that the only reason that the world ever got saved was because of America. And we were the stars of the show. And we all just uh no, it was a time when we all felt that way un unequivocally.

SPEAKER_06 40:15

And don't you know whenever aliens land, they always land in America.

SPEAKER_07 40:19

Oh no, they landed everywhere in this movie, but we were the ones that figured it all out, right? And that's definitely but but what I'm saying though is that I miss it being a time in which we all just went collectively as a country. I believe that. You know? And it pisses me off that I'm that I have to think about that now.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

Now we live in a generation where everybody is against America.

SPEAKER_06 40:45

Oh, you mean back in the day where we say I pledge allegiance to the flag? Yeah. Yeah. That's because we used to pledge allegiance to our country. Correct. And we don't do that no more.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

We don't do that in class anymore.

SPEAKER_07 40:56

And another thing that struck me is um not only that in this movie the media could be believed, um, but they're using it as a plot point that we believed.

SPEAKER_04 41:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 41:06

So I do believe in aliens, actually. No, no, no, no. Just so much that, you know, like anytime they were using news snippets, yeah, people were just, you know, like like if we saw something like that right now, where aliens have landed, yeah, we'd shake our heads, like we'd all be like, you're not, dude, I'm pissed about the fucking economy. Fix that shit.

SPEAKER_06 41:25

Like them aliens. Yeah, like it's like you said, if they come down here, they better be paying fucking taxes.

SPEAKER_07 41:29

Yeah, well, it's not just that though. It's because like they collectively, the government, what a few years went ago, were like, oh yeah, aliens are a real, and uh, we've been studying them just as long as you think we have, blah, blah, blah. And everybody's like, and everybody. Yeah, everybody collectively went, so fix the fucking economy. Give a shit. So what I'm saying is what I'm saying is that we live in a time now where you know that shit that shit we wouldn't give a shit, or we would, you know, think it was fake.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

We got other problems on our mind.

SPEAKER_07 41:59

But like in this movie, in this movie, everybody is collectively losing their shit because of the media. Well, and it struck me as diff it just reminded me that things are different. Well, another way to remind me that things are different.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

It's kind of the same thing. I mean, everybody's freaking out over the the media. Every media has different point of points of views. Instead of being collective, be like, yeah, this is really what's going on.

SPEAKER_06 42:25

That's because right now, I think we're at a time, especially now, where there are too many voices. Uh, social media has given everybody a voice, and everybody listens to those voices. Yeah. So and people are just collectively, you know, stir crazy and they don't know what to believe because they're like they don't have to hold the media accountable. Well, what I'm exactly that, and you're like, you don't know who to listen to or what to believe because your your mind's everywhere, because you got all these different people telling you different things.

SPEAKER_07 42:51

They've lost credibility though, because they don't have to be held accountable. They can write whatever they want and then go Well, they're also considered fake news now. That's what I'm saying. They've lost credibility. If they were if they were held to the standard that they used to be held to.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:07

I mean, they can't just go, oh sorry, and not issue something.

SPEAKER_04 43:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:12

You know, back then they had to. But um, it's just another it was another reminder that things had changed.

SPEAKER_06 43:18

Oh, severely, man. Like there were so many things that I was like, like like the part where she's driving through uh um uh what was it L it was LA, right? Yeah, she was driving through LA uh after it was blown up and all that, and uh and I'm just thinking like, man, if only she had a cell phone. Yeah, like yeah, like a cell phone would fix all her problems. Granted, I don't know if she'd have service because I guess the cell phone towers would be down, but I mean, still though, I mean satellites and everything else.

SPEAKER_07 43:48

I think uh one of the coolest things though that I found watching this is that one of the most unbelievable things to me is that they've been studying the same aliens, same space. spacecraft same all of that stuff for 40 plus years and they still don't know anything about it. But it's also the most believable thing in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

Like the most the most government Yeah they they couldn't figure anything out with it except for within the last 48 hours right and that was only because the mothership had game but that's not even a thing though is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07 44:23

Like if you've had 40 plus years to tear stuff apart and look at you should know something. You should know a lot. You should know how to drive that bitch backwards. And and furthermore then all the then everything that we learn they don't they say all kinds of things have been happening and obviously they figure out how to fly the fucking thing but like the everything we learn comes from a as his dad says um TV repair man and um what was he in the in the air force those two dudes teach us pretty much everything we know yeah about the the aliens in this movie. So it's kind of like you guys it's the most unbelievable thing right because they've got government money they spent 20 grand on a toilet seat right but they figured out nothing.

SPEAKER_06 45:14

I also love that the weakest point of the ship is the most obvious weak point of the ship. The docking yeah like right up the butthole pretty much I'm like is it though I mean like I feel like that's a pretty strong weak point to be like opening up these giant light driven doors and and like that's like saying hey stick your stick your fucking nose right up our ass and I bet we blow up you know what I mean like like I don't think it's a little on point.

SPEAKER_07 45:44

Yeah a little on point a little bit yeah and then they one thing I didn't understand okay that and this kind of does go back to the MacBook thing. So they've got this great like cloaking kind of thing where it's a shield but you don't see it like you can't penetrate it or anything right but like they don't have like an antivirus or something.

SPEAKER_06 46:07

They got this great technology where they got like you know Mac Apee for aliens on something.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

No, because they've never came across another life form that could send it virus we don't know that.

SPEAKER_07 46:18

We don't know that yeah we do Jeff Goldblum just is the most badass motherfucker in the world figured it out. Yeah he was a fly yeah that's what I'm saying he's a motherfucking flying lore that's why they couldn't they didn't make a lore they didn't make an antivirus because they never had to go up against Jeff Goldblum see oh okay well you know what that actually that actually does hold water came at Charity light attracts that that he's right attracts I can't believe I didn't think about that um one other thing I was struck by is that I feel like you know you you said we have a lot of Michael Bay type things I don't think we have Michael Bay anymore. I think we need Michael Bay um we have fireworks in movies that just don't stop. Yeah so um this movie was giving me Michael Bay vibes before that's what I'm saying Michael Bay that's what I'm saying I think we need more of that where we used to make fun of how many explosions were in a movie but let's be real nowadays it's just one big explosion.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

I miss Michael Bay when at least there was a you know at least there was a car falling off a cliff or something I do miss some big dumb action like people hate on the Fast and Furious movies but I'm like dude I'm one of dumb dumb dumb action like give it to me I don't care yeah I'll watch I love dumb action here's another thing that brings me to another another point uh we could talk about explosions so when uh that uh Will Smith's girlfriend and her kid are running from their car to go hide from the explosion that's happening to the game oh yeah and they left the door open they jump in the room and the door's wide open now we all know how fire works it will go in now it'll go right past it because it's open and that's moving magic.

SPEAKER_07 47:58

I got nothing I was really trying to now after they should have shut the door I'd be like oh okay that makes a little bit more sense but it's then again it's well yeah it does make sense because you know if you have your door shut it's gonna take a minute you know that's why they always say if you touch your door handle and it's hot don't go out yeah or don't open the door but I'm just talking about with the explosion explosion doesn't matter dude the dog had to live okay okay but also Vivica A foxy had to live the dog should have shut the door behind it.

SPEAKER_06 48:27

Yeah exactly kicked it just the dog had no fucking manners so they named him Chuck Norris the dog no wait well his name was boomer right boomer that's what you said right yeah that's what I said badass the dog just like flying backwards kicked the door shut he doesn't have to hi ah oh he just he just does it he just doesn't he doesn't he doesn't need to sound like you good how's that beer going now pretty good yeah uh it's alright yeah all right well let's go ahead and move on let's get into the good stuff we took a couple beers after fixing that fence rug all righty um so this is where we review and all that good stuff uh let's start with Jeremiah Jeremiah what'd you think of Independence Day from 1996 right yeah I'd start off by giving it maybe a six like I say it went on for too long thin plot they should have just started the movie on July 4th with alien invasion called movie Sunbell alien invasion I think that was a TV show I think it was aliens attack it was they had dots on their heads didn't they yeah I think so yeah alien alien nation oh alien that's also a movie no that it's the TV show alien nation was the T could be called Alien Invasion Alien Attack although I think there's like a 50s movie that's called Alien's attack Mars attacks well I know Mars attacks but I'm saying like back in the 50s I thought there was an alien's attack probably I'm sure there's every type of you know I'm sure they've been used twice there's a lot of alien movies out there plan nine from outer space oh how about plan one through eight through eight if we watched those maybe plan nine would make more sense yeah yeah but yeah I felt the movie went on a little too long they probably could have cut some shit like the whole stripper like oh I'm not getting paid for this or whatever the fuck she said then she goes to her room pulls out her kid and she just leaves well and she seems so damn proud of it for somebody that quit yeah I mean that could have been like I said just start the movie on fucking I don't know man I see aliens coming in spaceships are hovering over I'm like time to get the fuck out of Dodge sure but you could have just left yeah you didn't have to go in yeah why are you at work that's what I was thinking like why are you there like you get even there like you're special dude you're gonna remember what she said try getting a babysitter right now well you didn't have to get a babysitter that's the thing to work you could have just not gone to work um and then she had to make a big deal about you know nice working with you Mario I'm fucking out which I do know why that was a thing but anyway why because nobody cares I'm glad that you're a stripper and you're proud of it or whatever like why is that a plot point though I'd pay her for a lap dance I know you would but I did like I thought that for a dollar I did like Judd Hirsch and Goldblum's interaction oh yeah like they were good oh yeah the father the father snow thing yeah oh yeah they were faster yeah they must go faster see now that is chemistry that worked they worked so well but they they have the same yeah yeah vibe yeah they were great I did love them I did love them checkmate wait hold on that's not checkmate he's like yeah checkmate and I did like uh Randy Quaid's character those are probably the three characters I actually liked in the movie you know because he was the the the kooky fighter pilot that they they stole he went right up there he went right up their ass just like they did his it kind of represents his like actual character himself in real life because he's actually a paranoid fuck too yeah he was fucking off the D at one point moved to Canada for a while started stealing shit yeah because he said that the Hollywood elites were after him and shit I'm like what the fuck dude yeah but that that's all I got you never know you might have been right well nowadays he don't look so crazy yeah right yeah but yeah that's all I it's coming out yeah uh for me um yeah I mean it's it's it's still a good movie it's fun um I love all the actors everything's good uh the one-liner still punch uh the aliens are a little generic now um but they're still awesome they did look and intimidating remember the toys and that one that you like pressed the back of and that like opened yeah yeah the little the little metal one and stuff yeah I didn't they had toys they were really cool man like I did the the spaceships that they flew around in those things were awesome yeah like those things are cool I know they had uh I don't know if it was a PlayStation one or a PlayStation 2 game no yeah never played it but uh I think that the uh overall the movie I mean it doesn't land like it used to but it's still man it's still like in our memory it's still in our childhood uh I mean I was like what fucking ten years old whenever this came out uh it was awesome then it's still awesome I mean I love the you know love America you know sort of you know signal that it pushes at people I I love that because that's something you don't see in movies anymore man and it sucks um because we should still love our country uh but uh aside from that I'm I'm gonna go ahead and say you know it it has fallen off a little bit it doesn't hit as hard as it used to because of you know what we got now for movies um Michael Bay went out and Michael baited everything so uh and then you've got you know uh other big name movies like you got the Fast and Furious franchise you've got all these other movies now that are just big dumb action and they're fucking tremendously entertaining you know yeah I mean you got then Diesel jumping from car to car across bridges and shit like impractical bullshit that's like okay that was awesome space in one of them they well they didn't really go to space they just like launched into space and then fell back down. It was kind of part of the joke though that they were like oh what are they gonna do now go to space and that was all no they should just embrace it at this point and do like a whole rainbow road thing in space I think I've seen up to eight I haven't seen nine yeah so they've got ten they're supposed to be doing the last one here soon. I don't know last yeah um so but yeah I mean I'm I'm gonna go off uh and I'll give it a uh solid seven still a solid seven for me man I just it's I love the movie and I love the actors and this also represents a time in which things were fucking glorious America was great and you didn't have all this bullshit in the media and it was the time of like more peace and there was there was no not a bunch of bullshit it reminds me of like whenever we saw Bill Clinton for president and just it seemed so peaceful back then you know and compared to the way it is now with how hyperactive everybody's emotions are now and everything. So it's very exhausting.

SPEAKER_07 56:16

It had the opposite effect on me just because it made me sad because it was that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 56:22

Like it reminded you missing so much of of how it was um and we were also kids back then too so we remember but then again our parents didn't look at the world the way that we do now oh yeah you know even our parents will you know look at us from time to time and say you know we're so sorry. But you can also though I think our parents had it the easiest because they didn't have to put up with what we had to put up with also what their parents had to put up with you got to think whenever our parents were our age or or whatever they weren't dealing with war. They weren't dealing with all these huge things you got to think whenever our grandparents were our age though they were dealing with the Vietnam War they had world war two before that and all these other big things happening yeah all these huge government things happening dude our parents had it made they really did they had nothing to worry about the economy was great until oh eight I mean we've had nothing but disaster after disaster after disaster it's been fallout after fallout for us yeah since we turned 18 it's been a fucking mess so yeah for me it was like the opposite effect like I don't know it just there was so many things in it like the whole media thing the whole just reminded me of things that nowadays are completely missing from society or hyped up one or the other um so I think if it wasn't for Goldblum and and I think it's Thunder I think so we're supposed to swim right is it yeah it's human sorry but I think that um if it wasn't for Goldblum and and um his dad and all of that I wouldn't give two shits about this movie honestly so uh I did five and a half for me it's right down the middle and I give it the extra half for the funny that's it five and a half yeah we got a small thunderstorm about to hit us I've always liked this movie.

SPEAKER_02 58:27

So I mean I haven't really had too many complaints on it. Yeah like you said the chemistry wasn't all there um some things were cheesy but overall I I could still I still enjoy the movie so I'm at a seven and a half yeah six and a half six and a half that's not bad about yeah on par with the critics really alright uh so we did our recast and all that stuff this week and you gave everybody whatever they wanted to do dealer's choice dealer's choice uh who do you want to go first I feel he's doing a telenovela so we'll get that one out of the way he could surprise me though but he seems hellbent on doing that all the time he does too so what I did but I didn't I didn't recast so I'm just gonna go straight into it so mine ouch in this wildly inappropriate it's a synopsis in this wildly inappropriate alternate universe independence day plays out less like a heroic alien vision invasion epic and more like a chaotic booze fueled summer party that just happens to involve extraterrestrials so we're going uh animal house but kind of so Earth is minding its business when giant aliens ships roll in hovering over cities like they're judging everyone's life choices okay enter Captain Steven Hiller Will Smith a hotshot pilot with a big ego bigger bigger one liners and absolutely no chill meanwhile david levitson jeff gold is the most world's most anxious tech nerd who realized the aliens didn't come to make friends they came to ruin everyone's Fourth of July plans president Bill Pullman who somehow looks per perpetually President Bill Pullman yeah president so Bill Pullman's just the president he's just president Bill Pullman he's not even he's not even he doesn't even have a name he is an actor became president yes the president Bill Pullman who is somehow perpetually like Barnes I got you I was not selected to read I was selected to lead yeah all right so who some somehow looks perpetually like he hasn't slept in three days tries to hold things together while the rest of humanity it did look like that all the time like the rest of humanity spirals into panic questionable decisions. Spirals in a panic questionable decisions and a surprising surprising amount of flirting considering the whole impending doom situation things excalate escalate quickly cities get obliterated egos get bruised and Hiller literally punches an alien in the face while talking trash like it's a bar fight David comes up with a plan that sounds like welcome to earth it was invented except he enunciated everybody always says earth yeah he didn't he said welcome to earth yeah David comes up with a plan that sounds like it was invented at 3 a.m upload a computer virus into an alien mother ship because apparently even hyper advanced aliens haven't heard of antivirus software QE Last Ditch mission involving stolen alien ships reckless heroics and just enough recklessness or reckless confidence to make it work the humans pull it off the aliens go down and everyone celebrates like they didn't almost get wiped out complete with awkward romantic reunions and explosions in the background. End result humanity survives the alien the aliens regret everything and Steven Hillard probably never lets anyone forget he saved the planet while flirting the entire time while flirting the whole time while flirting the whole entire time okay I was trying to do mine with like where he fucks one of the aliens like I was trying to make like this whole plot synopsis where they get stranded in the desert together and they fall in love and they bang in the desert what I just talked about but Chat BGBT was like no we can't do that pornographic stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:46

Yeah they don't do that I'm like motherfucker this is what I want all I did was I typed in you worked for me you worked for me I just typed in Independence Day plot synopsis what as a raunchy comedy I just want some weird tentacle porn with Will Smith no it took so oh you were looking at chat GPT you needed to look at chai GPT I don't I don't have the tentacle porn stuff but fuck you why not giving you what you it didn't though I was like because I kept typing it in as I can't do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:27

He understands because he'll type shit in all the time and not get the answer he's looking for or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:32

We had a whole conversation about something the other day and I don't even know what it was okay so it was uh the water thing water's not really wet it's just the way your skin perceives it oh yeah yeah yeah that's factual no he has conversations with his chat GPT oh okay yeah he just sits down the basic because I used to work with a kid and he was adamant about that so I got in my head one day and I just asked it and we had a whole fucking conversation about it I get bored no explanation needed man it's cool all right so the title of my movie is called Independence Day Total Roundhouse starring Chuck Norris as himself based on Independence Day but way less serious all Chuck Norris has to do is just like the only person in this movie is Chuck Norris.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:33

No no no no there's aliens but then there's the only person he didn't say alien yeah he's the only person all right so the plot synopsis is I should have done that James silent Bob when a massive uh alien armada appears over Earth humanity prepares for its final stand until the president realizes they had already have a secret weapon Chuck Norris just existing somewhere in Texas uh while governments panic and scientists scramble Chuck is claim uh calmly fixing a lawnmower the aliens detect him immediately and hesitate should I even read my no and that he said quietly in Texas and I just got that Haley Joe Osmond segment of that one episode where he's like Walker says I have AIDS in the middle everybody's laughing and hugging and having a great time the kids like Walker says I have AIDS Anywho continue. Yeah it just popped into my head I'm like no it's a fine thank you their mothership uh AI labels him as uh unquantifiable threat level nope but it's too late they've already invaded uh first contact with regret as cities get blasted Chuck finally looks up at the sky squints and mutters it On a Tuesday? He doesn't call anyone.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:04

Nuns don't work on Slack.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:06

Yeah. He doesn't call anyone. The president calls him. Chuck answers with, give me 20 minutes and a black coffee. Meanwhile, alien ships start malfunctioning just from being in Chuck's general vicinity.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:24

I love it.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:25

Act two, the counterattack. Instead of hacking alien tech like in the original movie, Chuck walks straight into Area 51, pats a UFO, and it boots itself down out of respect. That's stupid. Scientists are confused. Chuck explains nothing. He then uses a roundhouse kick to redirect a laser beam back into orbit. Stares at an alien, which immediately surrenders and uh files for asylum, fixes a crash jet by encouraging it. Encouraging it. End quotes. At one point, a general asks, what's the plan? Chuck replies, There is no plan, just me. Act three. Take the fight to them. Instead of flying into the mothership with a virus, Chuck jumps into space. No suit, no oxygen, just vibes. That's fucking great.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:28

I love that.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:29

Fucking just vibes. Uh gravity adjusts itself for Chuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:35

I can't.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:37

I love that. Oh my god, dude.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:41

I love Chuck Norris' jokes. I got a whole book.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:44

Oh god. That would almost be a trial. Chuck Norris and Mr. T.

unknown 1:07:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:48

Chuck Norris and Mr. Two. Little silver books in our bookshelf. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:52

Alright, uh, the alien queen tries to communicate telepathically and apologized mid-sentence. Chuck whispers, leave. The entire armada armada powers down instantly. Alright, finale. The ships retreat. Humanity celebrates. Fireworks explode. Chuck declines all awards, walks off into the sunset, and disappears before anyone can say or can thank him. Final line from the president. Next time, we just call him first. But me, for me, my final line would have been, you don't fuck with Chuck. So you don't need anybody else. You just need Chuck Norris.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:40

Respectfully, I forfeit.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

So I just I just did the Independence Day with the Jays and a Silent Bob treat, but I'm not gonna put it in as my thing, but you'll have to hear this one because it's pretty fun. Go ahead, Karen.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:54

No, I I I forfeit.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

Well, if she's gonna forfeit, then I'll just say this one. We already know. Joseph wins Joseph wins.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:03

Nobody he's voting. Let him do his thing. You guys say your Karen, read your shit. I don't want to.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:12

If she doesn't want to. That was amazing. Yeah. You can keep the duck again.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:19

So hold on. Do I have a longest streak? Is this three? Yeah, that's three. You get the longest streak. I get to lose it next week. Yeah. Three is as long as you can go.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

Yeah. It literally is.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:30

Um, so this fuck that I'm voting for myself next week.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:35

So this one is a Jay and Silent Bob one. Says uh directed by Kevin Smith and starring Jay and Silent Bob. Aliens show up over Earth, but instead of the uh world leaders panicking, the camera opens outside a quick stop in New Jersey. Jay Energy at Full Blast is mid-rant about how the giant spaceship looks like a metal snoogens taco. While Silent Bob just stares eating chips like this is a normal Tuesday. The plot kind of.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:07

Everything falls on Tuesdays, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:09

The plot kind of.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:10

Can't fuck with Taco Tuesday, though, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:12

Yeah. The plot, kinda. The government tries to handle the invasion Q Will Smith type hero energy, but somehow Jay and Silent Bob accidentally get wrapped up in saving the world because they sneak into sneak onto a military base trying to sell weed. Jay hits on an alien.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:28

I was gonna say, it's not them saving the world, it's gonna be Bob saving the world while Jay tries to fuck an alien.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:33

Jay Jay hits on an alien unsuccessfully and loudly. Silent Bob somehow understands the alien tech immediately, because of course he does. Instead of a high-level plan to upload a virus, the mission becomes, yo, we just need we just gotta unplug their their big ass space wifi snoogens.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:52

Snoogans.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:54

Key scenes. Alien autopsy scene. Jay, yo Bob, that thing looks like it listens to techno. Nod. Jay or silent bob just nods. Inspirational speech, but not really. Instead of the president giving a speech, Jay grabs the mic. We will not go quietly into the night. Unless they're snacks. Then maybe. Climax, Silent Bob presses one random button on the alien ship, and it works perfectly. Entire alien fleet shuts down. Jay, I helped. Ending. Earth is saved. No one knows how. Jay tries to take credit on the news, it gets cut off mid-sentence. Silent Bob finally speaks. No ticket. Fade out. Clerk style back and white credits roll with a stoner rock soundtrack.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:42

Yeah. That's probably how it would go, too. It would.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:47

Alright. Well, there you have it. Winner winner chicken dinner. Well, duck dinner.

unknown 1:11:52

Duck dinner.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:55

Alright, uh Thursday. It was a Thursday. You looked all the way back to 96 to see when it fell. You just gotta blow up the calendar. Yeah, that's a lot of work.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:04

Not really used. No. But the movie went to theaters on July 3rd. I couldn't even fucking do it on actual Independence Day.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:17

Well, probably because everybody was closed because we actually celebrated it back then. And so they won.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:23

That was that would have been the perfect. I still celebrate it. I blow a fire. I don't give a fuck where I live. No, I mean I live in town and I blow shit up in my backyard.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

I mean places closed. Yeah. Movie theaters.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:34

Oh, you mean like now nothing closes?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:36

Movie theaters are actually still open on Independence Day. That's what she's saying.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:41

No, no. Like back then. Back then. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:43

That would have been the perfect promotion. See, ID4.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:49

But that's that's the difference, though, is that like now people think that way. Back then it was I don't care how much money we'll make, people get that day off.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:59

You dick.

unknown 1:13:02

Whoa.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:04

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:04

Don't fuck with the emphasis. Sweet ass trivia with Karen. I wish I could whistle because I would have done it. The what?

SPEAKER_07 1:13:16

Oh the I really don't have as much as you probably think I do. The scene in which Will Smith drags the unconscious alien, we talked about that.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:31

I just want you to know I don't I didn't know how much you had, so no, because it's it's like an older movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:37

There was almost like 300, I think, pieces that I found. 300 different pieces. I don't give a fuck, Keisha. That's why I aimed for his hat.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:50

Why do you gotta be so mean? Because you're a dick. I heard it. I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:54

That's why I aimed for the hat. Thank you. Dean Devlin.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:00

Huh? Take a few beers with you. I'm walking home. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:05

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:08

I might get electrocuted.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:11

How many times? Six and sixty-seven.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:22

Forgot all about that. Great outdoors. Love that movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:29

Oh, is he freaking out?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:30

No, they just said the power flicker for a second.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:32

I bet he's freaking out. All right. Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich penned the script in four weeks. It was sent out on a Thursday and they started fielding offers the next day. By Monday, they were in pre-production.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:47

Damn.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:48

Yaw. Dean Devlin said that most of the dialogue and the scenes with Jeff Goldblum shared with Judd Hirsch and Will Smith was improvised. According to producer co-writer Dean Devlin, the U.S. military had agreed to support the film by allowing the crew to film at military bases, consulting the actors who have military roles, etc. However, after learning of the Area 51 references in the script, they withdraw, withdrew their support.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:16

Wait, what? They withdrew their support from what?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:20

From the film. The military was fully on board agreeing to support the film by allowing the crew to film at military bases, consulting the actors that who have military roles, etc. etc. However, after learning of the Area 51 references in the script, they withdrew their support. Which is hilarious because how do you keep people from being like suspicious? Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:48

Don't be suspicious. Tell them not to be suspicious. Like, hold on. No.

unknown 1:15:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:55

Of course there's not aliens.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:57

Of course there's not aliens in there. Wait, you're gonna talk about it in the movie? We can't be a part of that.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:01

We can't be a part of that. It's classified.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:05

You want to do this movie? Yeah, sure. Area 51. Nope. Right? No.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:10

Uh Vivek A. Fox's character quits her job as a stripper. When she leaves, she says to her boss, nice working for you, Mario, in a sarcastic tone. This is a jab at producer Mario Cassar, who forced Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin to cut some of the scenes from their last film, Stargate. Jeff Goldblum uses one of his lines from Jurassic Park, Must Go Faster, Must Go Faster, and is delivered with the same intensity. I said that when we were watching it. He kept saying it. I'm like, that's from that movie. Uh Jada Pinkett Smith turned down the role of Jasmine. Oh my god. Because of scheduling conflicts with the nutty professor.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:50

No, scheduling conflicts with her other boyfriend.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:53

Boyfriends. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:55

Her son's boyfriend, who would have been like three at the time.

unknown 1:16:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:59

Her son's friend. Sorry. Whatever. She's slut.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:03

In the briefing room scene at Area 51, behind Hiller and Gray, there is a night vision pan of the base. What you are seeing are actual shots of the real Area 51 taken by a conspiracy theorist from a place called Freedom Ridge. The ridge was commandeered by the US government in the late 90s and is no longer accessible to the public. Again. Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious. That's it. Alrighty then.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:32

Okay, well, uh let's hear it. Uh what's in the box? What's in the fucking box?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:40

I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:43

Uh, what's in the box? What's in the fucking box? Roadhouse. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:55

I have not seen that fucking movie and I've been.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:57

I have not seen the original in a long fucking time.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:00

It's been at least twenty maybe even longer than twenty years. It's like a long fucking time.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:04

The only part I really have both in there? Roadhouse 2? Because you want me to put it back in?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:09

Yeah, because I want to do Roadhouse 2. That's actually a good movie. I don't care what it's about. No, we do the first one. Yeah, we're gonna do the first one. The second one was okay. Oh no, no, I'm thinking not the second one, I'm thinking of the remake.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:22

One with Jake Jill and Hall. Well, there was a second actually one. 6.6. There was, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:27

I've never seen that one.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:28

Neither have I.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:29

I was talking about the Jake Jill and all one.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:32

Yeah, no, there's a Roadhouse 2.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:34

Oh, I've always liked this movie. What?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:37

Power keeps flickering at the house.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:39

I uh I keep getting it. I watched this not too long ago, actually. The old one? Yeah, I think it was about Patrick's Way. Three months, three months ago, maybe. I watched it. His first crime. I like this movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:52

I like the remake. I like the remake too. A lot of people are like, eh. Like, dude, it's just dumb. I don't think the remake. I hated uh Col I liked him because he was over the top and stupid. And he was a terrible actor, and I loved it.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:06

I don't think the second one can hold a candle to the first one. That's just my my the remake or the second?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:11

The remake. Okay. Because the remake, probably not. You're probably right. But it takes doesn't take itself as seriously as the original. That's what I liked about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:21

I did like when he took all those fucking assholes out into the fucking parking lot. Beat the shit. Yeah, and left the one. He'd be like, one of y'all needs a drive by. Yeah, one of you guys gotta drive.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:30

Yeah, it's a that's a good movie. I don't care what it is. And they're making a sequel, I think. So I'm good with this. I I like it. I I thought it was a fun movie, just uh and I like the setting and everything, so it was good. Anyway, Karen, what what do you got? About what? Oh nothing.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:49

Oh well next week we're gonna do I was inputting everything for next episode.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:53

Next week we're gonna do uh Roadhouse from 1996.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:58

No, it's way, way older. Oh, 89, I think. 80 or 86. Hold on. It's hold on. I say 80. Whoa. Oh, we flew.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:06

We better wrap this shit. Yeah, night. 89. Bye. Okay, it's crash.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:13

Okay, it's just bye! Still on. Dude. Sorry. We'll see you guys later before we don't let it fucked up. Bye. Bye bye. Oh, wait, sorry. Hit it quickly. Socials. Yeah. Now we can say goodbye. Everybody say goodbye. Say bye. I already did it. Okay, bye bye.